Between Hope and Heartbreak

Ep 26 Robin’s Farewell and the Future of Motherhood and the Messy Middle

• Motherhoodandthemessymiddle • Season 2 • Episode 6

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Robin announces her departure from the show to focus on her holistic wellness practice, while Nicole prepares to continue the podcast, focusing on supporting mothers dealing with estrangement. They reflect on their deep virtual friendship, the challenges of midlife motherhood, and their continued mission to normalize 'the messy middle.' The episode is filled with emotions, gratitude, and plans for future meditations and practical support for women in various stages of motherhood.

00:00 Welcome to Season Two: Embracing the Messy Middle

01:02 Halloween Vibes and Emotional Announcements

02:01 Robin's Farewell: Answering the Call

07:48 Navigating Grief and Community Support

11:10 Building Virtual Villages and Deep Friendships

14:01 The Power of Meditation and Mindful Practices

19:38 Robin's Holistic Wellness Journey

26:13 Nicole's Future Plans for the Podcast

32:55 Final Thoughts and Farewells

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And explore more resources for estranged moms at nicolecoates.com.

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robin:

Welcome to Motherhood and the Messy Middle where grade school meets grown kids, hot flashes, meets holy fire, and no topic is too messy for this village. I'm Robin.

Speaker 4:

I'm Nicole, and we're two moms who slid into each other's dms, built a deep friendship without ever meeting in person, and now we're creating a virtual village where we're inviting you in. This is season two and we're continuing our mission of normalizing the messy middle through real connecting conversations between two friends who are living it right alongside you.

robin:

We'll be experimenting this season with themed miniseries on topics like estrangement, difficult conversations, holidays and personal growth, always with honesty, hope, and maybe even a little laughter. Because we know that motherhood and midlife, it can stretch you spiritually, emotionally, hormonally, sometimes all before breakfast.

Speaker 4:

So whether you're raising littles, navigating midlife, or just tired of pretending that you're fine, this space is for you. So let's dive in.

Speaker:

Well, we've, we've hit the end of October and there's some other endings we need to talk about today. Nicole.

nicole:

Boo. I'm gonna cry already. Yeah, I know. I brought tissues. Yeah,

Speaker:

I didn't bring any tissues, but it is like about to be Halloween. I don't know if you've seen my shirt, but for those of you, you know who are listening, I have a Halloween Bluey shirt. That's so cute. Yes. So that, that will bring, I'll just wipe my snot on it just like I'm a little child.

nicole:

Oh yeah. Well, um, Robin and I have some things to share and kind of talk about today, uh, that will shape the future of,, motherhood in the messy middle. Robin, do you wanna share a little bit about where you're at or do you want me to kind of take the lead and share a little bit?

Speaker:

Yeah, I, I'll. Let's just see where I go with this. Right. Um, well I'm really sad because this is going to be my last episode on the podcast. And, um, I guess I wanna start at the end, which is that Nicole and I have, um, continued to really answer the call of God and how that looks for each of us. Is different. So many things about us are different, but we've been connected on this soul like spiritual level because we answer the call and the nudges have been around how do we best serve women mothers? And when we started this podcast. It was in a very different time. I mean, it was, it was not that long ago, and yet so much has transpired for us as individuals and even in the world.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker:

Um, the timeline just in general in life just feels like there's an acceleration and being intentional and really, um. Practicing for me, you know, what I call my spiritual fitness has allowed me to make decisions and then also quickly navigate when there's a greater answer. And one of the beautiful pieces that has emerged through all of this is, Nicole, you have found the community that you breathe life into, and that is moms. That are walking through estrangement and it's a space that it's devastating that it is needed, and yet in that energy we have to lean into it and make sure that we're serving and that's what we're here to do. And so. Though I am a holistic weight loss and wellness teacher, and I have incredible resources to help women, especially with regulating their nervous systems and releasing weight, and really stepping into confidence and looking at, you know, holistic health and that does benefit women who are walking through estrangement. That's not the singular niche, that is my area of expertise or experience. And not only is that anecdotal in us knowing that and um, faith led, but we have data. We can look at our podcast episode downloads and we see that there is a need. For a space where women feel safe and seen, which always was the intention of us starting this podcast, but through the beauty of just starting and partnering with God in that work, it now is more clear that motherhood and the messy middle is truly for the mother walking through estrangement.

nicole:

That was really hard. I similarly felt nudges, um, that that was the direction It kind of felt like it needed to go or was naturally headed and, um, that it was hard because I don't want it. I don't really wanna do this without you, but I know it needs to be done. Um, and it's an honor to, to, um, be able to provide that space for women. But, um, I also know it's, you have so much knowledge and wisdom that. You serve women with all day long and anyone who gets to be your friend or stand in your light gets to experience the beauty of all that you are. And by talking more about estrangement here, it, it doesn't feel like it's giving you that space that you need to be able to share all of your knowledge and encouragement with women. That. I mean, yes, women who walk in any woman can use your resources, um, but they could be used in a different way with a different audience.

Speaker:

Yeah. And you know, something that in my aging I've had to learn is that just because we can, doesn't mean we should, should. And when, you know, there's always like that, that saying that you and I have learned as we've, you know, stepped into ENT entrepreneurship in like the online spaces, especially like when you're speaking to everyone, you're speaking to no one.

Speaker 3:

Hmm.

Speaker:

And essentially by me being on the podcast, I am depleting my own resources mm-hmm. Around time and energy and focus. And because I care so deeply and I'm so intentional in all that I do.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm. Um.

Speaker:

And so, you know, there are multiple levels of why this is the right time. Mm-hmm. And I just want to name that the thing that feels the hardest for me is that it is a loss. Mm-hmm. Like for me, um, and you, and so there's grief and it's, it's almost, um, you know, like still defined as like the ambiguous grief.'cause it's not like I'm

Speaker 3:

mm-hmm.

Speaker:

Going away. I'm not, you know, disappearing or anything like that. Um, but what I know to be true as a woman who has walked through multiple forms of grief and loss is that grief doesn't go away and it just, you change. And, um, yet when another. Piece comes up that, that, that strikes that chord. It can just feel very heavy. And I'm feeling that myself. And it makes me just want to say to everyone listening that, um, that I really care about you and I love you, and I'm a woman that hasn't. Dealt with estrangement and hopes that it doesn't ever happen. But I see you and I'm loving you from afar and praying for you, and I just hope that, you know that me stepping away from the podcast is not another loss. It's actually an opportunity to build an even more beautiful, fertile ground. For the work that Nicole has and, um, my strength in life has been in this like relentless pursuit to seek belonging

Speaker 3:

because that's a core wound for me And Nicole, you've given that to me. And you, you have been able to show me things that I couldn't see myself, and even in the fact that we've had this friendship

Speaker:

that we haven't been in person together and we were able to collaborate and build this podcast. The amount of. Support that we both have been able to show for each other and growth and reflection, and even like for our family and our dynamics, our marriage, our parenting, our professional lives, all of it. That's the power of community. That's the power of. Doing things that make you want to have an accident in your pants, as you like to say. Right. Saying yes to all of those things. And, um, that includes even the things that make you very sad, right? When you know that it's the right thing to do.

nicole:

Yeah. Yeah. I, the beauty of our friendship and my encouragement to everyone listening is. You can create your village from anywhere. Mm-hmm. Yep. And from anything. And it, there's, you know, it takes time, it takes effort, but you can be a good friend to someone you met on the internet.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

nicole:

You can develop friendships that are deep. Our friendship is so deep and we've never met in person and that's wild. Um, but you are one of my dearest friends who we will still record the whole thing when we meet because we will meet and I

Speaker:

hopefully a retreat that's like, you know, that's my sweet spot. I'm actually leaving in a couple days to. Host the Mindful Nourishment Retreat is the fourth one. And I act because you brought that up to me. Um, outside of recording the podcast, Nicole was like, I didn't realize that you've, you know, done this retreat before and that you facilitate it solo. And I wrote down, I was like, how many have I done? And I told her three mindful nourishment retreats and I was wrong. But honestly, I was walking through a season of grief and the. And I still kind of am, but it makes your mind do weird things. But, um, I have, we even have a Google Doc where we're starting to plan some different pieces and so yes,

nicole:

Robin, you'll have to be there.'cause I don't know, I'm not the planner. I'm the Type B'S friend. I don't know. I, I mean, I'll be on time, but I'm usually a hot mess, like nothing. It's. Remember, there's no white picket fence here. It's all chaos. It's a circle. We've run over the white picket fence. It's all ridiculousness. Nicole.

Speaker:

There's no white picket fence anywhere. I know. Like the people that have it, it people still, it's a facade. Yeah. Yes. And looping back to what you said too about like that, you know, the listeners that like, we're evidence that you can truly create your village, um, even in virtual ways. Um. If you hear any noises, by the way, I have two teenage kitten boycots who are huge and now eight months old, massive, and they are just. They were napping and now it's just, it's like, it's either sleeping, eating, pooping, or just like chaotic playing and biting and like all this. So that's what's happening right now.

nicole:

Um, Robin sent me um, a Marco Polo the other day of the cats fighting and I was telling her, and she was talking about like what had happened with their fight earlier. And I was telling her like this basically,'cause they're two boys, her cats are two boys and I have three boys. And I said, this is basically what it's like raising human. Boys too. It's sleeping, eating, pooping, fighting. Like it's, that's all it is.

Speaker:

Yeah. It's really entertaining until you have to break it up and then you're really scared because there's a lot of claws and teeth involved. But anyways, um, you know, the thing that all of this reminds me of, and then I wanna make sure that we highlight for everyone too, is there's a lot of noise in the world. You know, I, my work focuses on ditching the toxic diet and hustle. Noise that it includes the wellness industry. Mm-hmm. And really tuning into stepping into your own inner coach. Right. And like learning to recognize the inner critic and, and putting it in its place by shining light on it, and then allowing your inner coach to grow. Mm-hmm. It's like the world right now is that inner critic and there's just so much noise and negativity and fear mongering, and there's even some bigger pieces around trying to keep that chaotic sense and dysregulated nervous systems because people purchase things during that time. You right? Mm-hmm. We wanna look for a quick fix and a solution and. There's also even our biochemistry, like we get, um, we get addicted to that, that rush of adrenaline and the rush of, you know mm-hmm. Dopamine on the social scroll or adrenaline when we're, we're creating a duality of

Speaker 3:

mm-hmm.

Speaker:

Of people and of issues. And that's just not actually the world. Right. And we're proof of that.

nicole:

Yeah.

Speaker:

It doesn't mean we're not human. It doesn't mean we don't, you know, disagree on things. But if we all could just take a little bit longer of an exhale

Speaker 3:

mm-hmm.

Speaker:

And be just 5% more intentional

Speaker 3:

mm-hmm.

Speaker:

With our words and actions, including the care that we're providing for ourselves. The rush to fix, the rush to move on.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker:

It's doing a disservice to this human experience, which includes painful times.

nicole:

Yeah. It's like we have said so many times. Getting comfortable with being uncomfortable. Mm-hmm. We rush past things to fix them or for the dopamine, or because we feel uncomfortable. Mm-hmm. One way or another. Something's upsetting. Grief, sadness, boredom, and we wanna fix a quick fix. And the more we can get comfortable with just being uncomfortable and like, like you said, a slow exhale and a pause, there's a lot of peace that can come with that. A lot of clarity that comes with that.

Speaker:

Yep. And the embracing too of it's, it's not. Binary. It's not one or the other. When we have human experiences, even your community is between hope and heartbreak. It's not one or the other. Sometimes they're both at the same time. Mm-hmm. Our opening, you know, for this podcast, which by the way, you're gonna have to, you're gonna have to rerecord that on your own.

Speaker 3:

I know.

Speaker:

Don't worry everyone, I will fully support Nicole in, um, in tying all of the little bows. And I'm gonna just randomly pop in and be like, Hey. So, uh, how are, how's that spreadsheet going for you? I actually haven't been doing really effective data tracking lately, so I might need to clean some things up before I step away. But, um, it's not one or the other. It can be. And it can be both. Yeah. And it really can be that way for us as women, and we need to lean into the roots of where we came from, which is villages, communities, circles of connection.

nicole:

Mm-hmm. Which is like what you are doing in your work is creating. You are, it's not, I'm going back to the and part, like you're, the way that you teach mindful nourishment and ditching diet culture, you're not having to choose if you have a dessert when you go out to eat or not. You're, you're creating an and in so that you can still be living life and not feel restricted. You're setting yourself up for success in how your body feels, and you're taking the time to meditate your soul and spirit and all of these different things that, um, so often, especially on social media, we're just fed like, here's a fad, here's a quick fix. Here's a, this will make you feel better and not addressing the whole picture. And I think that you do that really. Really, really beautifully.

Speaker:

Well, and it's a humanity too, right? Like even you say meditation and I almost like cringe a little bit because I think that like one of the biggest talks I've done over the years is around an introduction to meditation, and the first thing that I do is I debunk a bunch of myths around it.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker:

Including that you need to meditate for, you know, huge amounts of time every day. And that's not what it's about. It's about. The, um, frequency in which you can touch base with it. But, you know, I also don't meditate every day like I've fallen out of routines and, um, and that's okay. It's all okay. Right. And that's where, you know, even for us stepping into this podcast, it was, it's been really, um, it's been really challenging for me to market myself, not only because I come across to most people as very. Uh, confident. Mm-hmm. I have a lot of words. Um, you know, the truth is, is that I have, uh, I have a high iq. My therapist says that that's just a data statement. It's not an ego boost. And iRead carefully there because I am a recovering addict. And one of the biggest pieces for me around recovery is really checking my ego and making sure that I have humility and, um. So there's like the personal stuff around that, right. And, um, that I can show up with the confidence that people think that I have. But truly inside of me, there's been, uh, a lot of imposter syndrome and I've gone through a really, really tough life. Mm-hmm. But the last. Several years have been really hard and um, and my healing has been really rapid as well. And alongside doing all of that, I've created my own curriculum. I'm not selling someone else's products or programs, right? It's everything that I've created that's based on research validated science alongside all sorts of eclectic spaces around spiritual, indigenous.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker:

Wisdom Christian mysticism, like, I mean, there's so much and it's so deep.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And

Speaker:

it's really in my neurodivergence, it's really hard for me to create like a quick, simple message when the work that I do is so deep and when I've been dealing with. Worrying more about how other people perceive me or if they don't get it. Right. Right. Yeah. Like if they don't understand like, oh, she's, she's a, like I, when I. When I got, um, I wasn't elected, I was appointed to the school board for one year to fill, fill a seat. And I will never forget when the newspaper came. It's really something when you're in the newspaper, right? It's just like something, and I'm a boomer inside, even though I'm technically a geriatric millennial. I'm like the oldest millennial that you can be, but I feel inside more like a boomer. And I get this newspaper and underneath it's my picture, and it says, Robin Richards health coach. Appointed to school board and I was like, wow, that's what I'm those two words and I'm so much more.

nicole:

Yeah.

Speaker:

You know, I had 13 years in public education and I didn't, uh. Not that it's just teach at at all. But I was teaching and coaching, coaching sports, coaching with academic teams, you know, multiple school districts, multiple states working for state departments of education, uh, relentlessly pursuing, you know, getting my master's degree, my curriculum specialist degree. And yet I say those things'cause they don't actually mean anything to me. Like they don't.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker:

And that's why. It's not that they don't mean anything, like the work and all of that that I put in, but that doesn't define me like degrees I've, I've walked and gotten degrees alongside others who let me tell you, like you wouldn't necessarily wanna be in their classroom or have them construct curriculum for you. And it's not, I'm not any more special or worse than anyone else. I just have been given a path where. I can't see any other way out than through and synthesizing information to make it personalized and utilizing, you know, what's best in education practices and human growth and development and applying it to wellness. And it's because I need it and I live it, but I've also been able to craft and create it alongside others and. That feels really good. So yeah, I'm not just a health coach, but I have landed at my, my words now. Mm-hmm. I'm your holistic weight loss and wellness teacher. Mm-hmm. Um, and I would really love if you are interested in learning ways that support women in. Merging science and soul so that you can ditch diet and hustle culture so that there's a release of weight. But see, it's not just a physical weight, it's also the mental load. It's an energetic weight. There's multiple layers, and yet I make it so that wherever you're at, you can access immediate relief as well as begin building. What I call investment practices that pay huge dividends in the future. And while you do that and you are, are supported, you then can not only sustain the progress that you make, but when you need, you can scale it. And that's so important for me because I feel. I don't want to throw a pity party'cause I'm not in that space. But it's just a reality that I have had more challenging seasons in my life than I've had ones of stability and ease. And so I've had to create ways to still access joy and to switch my addiction to the only one that I know is the best that there can be. And that's hope. So I'm very sad, um, to be stepping away from the podcast, and yet I feel clear.

nicole:

Yeah,

Speaker:

I feel clear, except sometimes I'm not clear in like lots of things that I say, but. If you want, if you want more clarity, I have to get clear when I put things like on my website. So you can go to robins wellness.com mm-hmm. And see that. Mm-hmm. And you know, I don't know, Nicole, that I'm not gonna ever be on here again, because I think that there might be some spaces for that. Um, well.

nicole:

Yes, that's what I was thinking too, kind of as you were talking, um, just thinking about wanting to share a little bit. Like I, there's a lot of, um, things that I'm still getting clear on and what the future of the podcast will look like. It will still be here, it will still exist. Um, we will be talking more on topics of estrangement, essentially, really, and everything that falls in between. But I think that like, and the goal, my goal would be is to do interview styles. So I feel like there will be multiple opportunities for you to come on, and we're talking about certain topics because you have so much wisdom in so many different areas that I think, you know well, that I know women need and benefit from. And so you a hundred percent, as long as you will accept my invitation. Absolutely. You know, one

Speaker:

thing I would really love to give to your community and that I am, um, that I really love doing for women is creating meditations. Mm. That help to regulate your nervous system and also rewire your brain mm-hmm. For healing and for hope while you're in the heartbreak. Mm-hmm. And so, um, when you're ready for that, you know, you let me know and we can even do a live recording of it, whatever it is that that fits for you. And I just really love that. Um, we are leaning into space and. By, by me stepping away, it gives, essentially, right, it's releasing. Mm-hmm. Um, and creating space. And that I would love for you to talk more about, um, what they can expect.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker:

Um, even if it's not known, right? Mm-hmm. Like, is there gonna be an episode next week? What do you think?

nicole:

I, well, so I was talking. Outside of the podcast with Robin about this because I feel like the reason I would be dragging my feet if I don't start recording right away is out of fear because, um, you know, it's easy to sit back and in the audience of social media and all the things, and you see people doing these, you know, growing a platform and they haven't this product that they're selling. But there's a lot of vulnerability in the work that we do and this solo. Entrepreneurship and we're doing it alone. And so when those doubts get really loud

Speaker 3:

mm-hmm.

nicole:

There's not a coworker to call. Mm. And even before we did the podcast, Robin became that coworker for me. That cheerleader in the corner of like, okay, let's problem solve it or, okay. Keep going. Don't, don't stop doing the work that you're doing because you've hit a roadblock or a speed bump. And she became my cheerleader and she, you're still gonna be my cheerleader. Sorry. You're committed for life. But, um, oh yeah,

Speaker:

I'm committed and I need you too.

nicole:

So, um, it's nerve wracking and. It's nerve wracking to do on my own because it's just another step and there's been lots of steps of vulnerability. I, I feel like it, what I feel like, I feel like I'm standing on the cliff of this huge chasm and I'm butt naked and completely vulnerable and raw, but like excited and exhilarated, but also like totally freaked out that I might fall, but what if I fly? Right? It's like this. I feel like it's a relatable analogy. Um, and so. Not recording right away would be, I think just me letting fear have a place and the motto that I use it is not pretty at all and it's really terrible, but it, it is mine and I own it. My motto for fear over the last two and a half years has been, if it makes me feel like I'm gonna vomit or poop my pants, then my answer will be yes, because I don't want fear to stop me from an opportunity because I was scared and so. I will, I'm planning on, but because I still have a job Monday through Friday, nine to five, I need to batch episodes so that I'm not. Trying to make sure I feel like I'm cramming something in.

Speaker:

Right. And so especially you still have three children that are in your home, right. And Right. So many variables happen, right? With our energy, with illnesses. Yeah. With, right. You know, your husband is working and can get deployed if there's a natural disaster. Right? I mean, there's so much, and so it's really powerful to have. That batching.

nicole:

Right. So I, I, my goal will be to continue, there might be a couple, we, there might be a week or two where there's no episode because I'll be batching. Um, but I'm gonna commit myself to, there'll be no more than a two week break.

Speaker:

All right. You heard it here ladies.

nicole:

Two weeks and then we'll be back.'cause that will be more than enough time to batch. Part of the, part of that could be a little hiccups is that I would like to inter do some interviewing. I don't, maybe I don't get those all done. I don't know. I have to plan it out. Maybe I just do record a bunch of solo things and then as I can interview people, I pop them in so they're not, so, I still haven't batched. I don't know what that looks like. You all don't need to know that necessarily. But I'm gonna give myself a two week break to record, batch record, and then be back.

Speaker:

And so what I would recommend to everyone listening is let's help out Nicole and send her ideas for what you love it, really want support around. And so you can send those over to Nicole um Coates at hello@nicolecoates.com. But. When we're building these things as women who are called to help support and build community, this is not about power over it's power with Hmm. And just holding the space. You know, we always need a leader who's going to create the container, but the difference between. Like a patriarchal, like stifling is mm-hmm. When it's power over and that, that is then a hierarchy. Mm-hmm. Where when you're about community co, that means together and circles and connections. So let's help out. Those that are holding the space for us and ask for what we need. And what I have to be really honest about is, uh, wow. That's probably the hardest thing we can do for self-care is asking, is identifying and then asking for what we need. Reaching out to someone else, but a stranger on the internet is a lot easier than the person in your neighborhood. True. So, very true. And then look where that can develop and, and become. Mm-hmm.

nicole:

Okay, Robin, remind everybody I, what I would love for everyone to do is join. Well, there's so many things that Robin does that I would love for you to be able to participate in because you can much. But now that I'm clear,

Speaker:

Nicole, let me tell you exactly where to start. Is the four day reset? Yep, the four day reset. And um, you can go to robins wellness.com and you will see, um. On there that right away there's gonna be a button you can click on and you'll be able to get to the four day reset, learn more about it. But essentially you pay a onetime cost, and I'm sorry, you did just miss the founding member rate. But there, when you get in there, you um, pay a one-time cost and you have lifetime access and it's to an entire platform that provides you with. A workbook that takes you every single step of the way, as well as multiple videos where you can watch them in the morning and the evening that help you to build a foundation that allows you to release weight and reclaim energy without overhauling your life. Mm-hmm. So you could start that. Literally tomorrow if you purchased it today. Mm-hmm. Um, all you would, that you would do is wanna get in and access so you know where to, to get everything within the portal. And I hold your hand virtually every step of the way. Mm-hmm. She really does. And you have every option of, if you only like reading, fine, do it in the workbook. And there's also words within each day on the, of the webpages of the portal. If you like video, cool. I have videos. You can even double speed them. If you like audio, you prefer podcasts probably because you're listening to this. Um, I have audio of it that you can listen to. Mm-hmm. And in addition, I've included multiple bonus resources around, um, supporting how to understand reading and nutrition label and, um. The, you're building a foundation of the four ms, which is meditation, mindfulness, or excuse me, meditation mindset, mindful nourishment and movement. And all four of them have a library of their own within the portal that have videos. So if you're like, I don't know what to meditate to, not only do I have a YouTube channel of free resources that you always can get to whether or not you're in the reset. If you're in the reset, you have. Personalized for the reset meditations. You have movement. I've actually recorded videos where, oh, you don't wanna get, you get up and move. Cool. I have a chair yoga session. It's really meeting

nicole:

everybody where they're at.

Speaker:

Yeah. You wanna learn more about this mindset thing? Awesome. I have some different, like little mini lessons and lectures within there. Mm-hmm. And the beauty is, is that I'm gonna keep building on it. Mm-hmm. And offering opportunities once you're in, uh, to be able to know when different VIP events happen, where I'll be running, you know, live resets. Because the reality is as women, and for me, I'm about to turn 43 next month, but I have been, um, in premature menopause, so I'm post-menopausal. We still need to tune into a 28 day cycle, even if we don't have a menstrual cycle. And that's where I leverage the power of,'cause it's fun, like my teenage self comes out the moon. And um, the real power though is in bringing the four day reset into a monthly practice because it helps you to assess and realign. And that's only the first part. Of four parts of the balance Your body method. So when I say that I'm here to meet you where you're at and to continue to support you, I'm not messing around like this is, and it's not about. Me doing it for you. It's about teaching you the things that then you know what I want you to do. Teach it to your girlfriend, teach it to your child, teach it to your neighbor. Because the power of practices that work for real life while still enjoying real life, including food, is that we can then show up and shine and others can join us in that. And we're not no longer just falling. Essentially victim to the pain points that are pushed on, uh, people just promoting their products over what really works, which is personalized solutions. So I hope to see you all over there and I will. Definitely be back at some point when it is aligned with Nicole, but don't you worry, Nicole and I, our micro polos will be hot and Oh yeah. Our text messages hyp with

nicole:

tea and all the things, life updates and kid updates and all the things it, our friendship is not going anywhere. It's just not on a podcast anymore. Which is really a shame for the whole world because we are very entertaining.

Speaker:

Yeah, we are entertaining.

nicole:

Yeah. I'm like, we're hilarious.

Speaker:

Anyone else? As weird as we are. Um,

nicole:

no, I don't, I don't think so. It, well, maybe actually yes, it's true, but they don't, I don't know. I, we just embrace it. I feel like some people just try to hide it. Just let your weirdo flags fly. Let the weirdo. Out. I don't know. I don't, are we, I don't know if we're weirdos. I guess maybe I should have said that, but I am. I don't know. I think we're, I embrace it.

Speaker:

Well, you're my weirdo. I love you. And I love you too.

nicole:

I love you. Thanks for going on this journey with me. I wouldn't know if I would've started without you.

Speaker:

Yeah. Well, I don't know. Who knows? I don't know if I would've either. And, um, the future is bright, my friend, so until next time. Okay. Bye friend. Bye. Bye guys.

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